Click to join mkultraones"Project MKUltra was first brought to public attention in 1975 by the Church Committee of the U.S. Congress, and a Gerald Ford commission to investigate CIA activities within the United States. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MKUltra files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms' destruction order." - Wikipedia
If you access the CIA's Library site itself, you can find an interview with Richard Helms, where interestingly enough, the first 8 pages of the interview are missing. I KID YOU NOT ! It starts with page 9 ! Check it out here:
Donald Rumsfeld (yes THE SAME DONALD RUMSFELD!) and friends basically prevented Helms from being questioned under oath, not, as they state, because they were trying to protect American Intelligence, but because they were trying to (and still are) hide the extent of Nazi War Criminals in the Agencies -and State Dept., and 3rd and 4th Reich involvement in the policy making aspects of the U.S. Intelligence Community, and American Right-Wing Political governance.
"On May 9 1975, the Church Committee decided to call acting CIA director William Colby. That same day Ford's top advisers (Henry Kissinger, Donald Rumsfeld, Philip W. Buchen, and John Marsh) drafted a recommendation that Colby be authorized to brief only rather than testify, and that he would be told to discuss only the general subject, with details of specific covert actions to be avoided except for realistic hypotheticals. But the Church Committee had full authority to call a hearing and require Colby's testimony. Ford and his top advisers met with Colby to prepare him for the hearing. Colby testified, "These last two months have placed American intelligence in danger. The almost hysterical excitement surrounding any news story mentioning CIA or referring even to a perfectly legitimate activity of CIA has raised a question whether secret intelligence operations can be conducted by the United States." The Ford administration, particularly Rumsfeld, was concerned about the effort by members of the Church Committee in the Senate and the Pike Committee in the House to curtail the power of U.S. intelligence agencies. Frontline quoted U.S. diplomat and Nixon assistant Robert Ellsworth, who stated: "They were very specific about their effort to destroy American intelligence [capabilities]. It was Senator Church who said our intelligence agencies were 'rogue elephants.' They were supposedly out there assassinating people and playing dirty tricks and so forth... Well, that just wasn't true." Rumsfeld and Ellsworth prevented the committees from dismantling the CIA and other intelligence organizations.". - Wikipedia
Because the pertinent MKUltra and Project Bluebird and Project Artichoke files have been destroyed what little we have left is Richard Helm's "story" about what was destroyed and why. The official tale is "7 Boxes" of records were destroyed. Considering the Public Record confirms 149 SEPARATE PROJECTS IN MKULTRA ALONE, WHICH HELMS SAYS "went on for many years" IT BEGS THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY SO FEW RECORDS HAD BEEN KEPT. I STILL HAVE OFFICIAL HARDCOPY HAND DELIVERED TO ME BY MY CIA HANDLERS IN 1973 BURIED IN A WILDERNESS AREA SOMEWHERE LISTING MORE THAN 240 MKULTRA SUBPROJECTS AND EVEN THAT LIST IS INCOMPLETE. COMBINED WITH THE DOCUMENTATION FROM ARTICHOKE AND BLUEBIRD AND THE 2, 000 PAGES JIM MARRS OBTAINED FOR "IN SEARCH OF THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE", IT'S OBVIOUS HELMS AND RUMSFELD AND THE WHOLE NAZI LOVING CABAL IS LYING!!!
THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU READ THE PERTINENT PART OF THE ACTUAL 'INTERVIEW' BELOW, YOU WILL REALIZE THAT PART OF THE QUESTION ABOUT THE BOXES HAS BEEN DELETED, BECAUSE THE GRAMMAR AND SYNTAX RIGHT BEFORE MENTION OF A 'BOOKLET' SHOWS THAT SOME WORDS ARE MISSING !!! Read the question carefully and you'll see:
"These experiments went on for many years. There is the inevitable question of whether they should have been ended sooner.
Allen Dulles, who was the Director back in those days, authorized this thing to be undertaken, but we all felt that we would have been derelict not to investigate this area.
Who else in government was going to investigate it? It was our field. Maybe our people abroad would be administered drugs. In other words, in a defensive way we felt we would have failed in our responsibilities if we hadn't investigated what was there, if anything."
The commission said it is clearly illegal to test potentially dangerous drugs on unsuspecting US citizens.
"There was one instance in which that was the case, and in retrospect I agree we should not have done it."
(ANOTHER BLATANT LIE PRINTED ON THE CIA'S OWN WEBSITE: 7,000 U.S. SERVICE PERSONNEL ARE RECORDED AS HAVING BEEN TESTED ON WITH DRUGS WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE DURING THE '50s!!!)
There is virtually no drug-related MK-ULTRA material in the files, we gather? In terms of destruction of those files, the seven boxes of progress reports that I think you had recalled from the Archives and destroyed on 31 January, was a booklet called "LSD 25, Some Unpsychedelic Implications." Why did you decide to do that?
"It was a conscious decision that there were a whole series of things that involved Americans who had helped us with the various aspects of this testing, with whom we had had a fiduciary relationship and whose participation we had agreed to keep secret. Since this was a time when both I and the fellow who had been in charge of the program were going to retire there was no reason to have the stuff around anymore. We kept faith with the people who had helped us and I see nothing wrong with that."
In principle, do you think there is ever an occasion when somebody has a right to lie in the national interest?
"I don't recall specific episodes, but it seems to me that if one goes through history there are examples of it and that it has been upheld by public opinion at the time. I don't encourage lying. I have never been confronted with this problem. I testified many years before various Congressional committees cleared to hear my testimony."