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Tuesday, May 22, 2012
Saturday, May 19, 2012
The Past, And Future, Of The Michael Teachings
"There Is Only One True Teaching"
There Michael says: ‘In order for this group to achieve the cohesion necessary to provide growth, a level of intimacy and trust far exceeding what you now have must be reached. This cannot be achieved through dialogue. Dialogue is false personality’s defense against emotional center.’
In order to PROPERLY align, prepare, invoke, receive and promulgate the "True"/"Higher"/"Esoteric" Michael Teachings, an Intentional Community MUST be formed!
Just like I have said since MY first Guru, Akashic Channel Stephen Gaskin, left San Francisco with 700 "Monday Night Class" regulars in hippie schoolbuses in 1970, to journey to Arkansas, and there form the oldest '60s rooted, Intentional Community and world-famous working Organic Teaching Farm: "The Farm" (still the biggest and most profitible Channeled Teachings based community in the world):
http://www.thefarm.org/lifestyle/sg.html
Michael Teachings students MUST form an insular Intentional Community and integrate themselves into it to receive the entire 'package' of Teachings, THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE FOR TOTAL RECEPTION !!! All other methods will only ever receive partial transmissions.
As I have said before, I knew this in the '70s, was living in Berkeley and the rest of my Band (The Chumpmonks) had a house in Orinda a mile from TOMG. WE WERE WHERE WE HAD AGREED TO BE, READY TO PLAY GIGS 7/365 TO HELP FUND THE COMMUNE! WE HAD 'TRIBE' - A LOOSE ASSOCIATION OF ABOUT 50 MATURE AND OLD SOULS READY TO MERGE. WE WERE A BRANCH OF TIMOTHY LEARY'S "BROTHERHOOD OF ETERNAL LOVE" CHURCH.
We collected every scrap of Michael Message we could wrangle, also studying Seth, and Lazurus, Brother Bartholomew and James. We waited for TOMG to incorporate and form a 501C around Sarah . . . and waited . . . and waited. For 5 years we were loyal to our agreement - '74 to '79 - ALL 50+ OF US !!! Then we knew that CQY had intruded upon the agreement, stolen the memes, published the MFM books and then dissed the Teachings for 10 years, having made enough money off them to do so.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE TO GET YOUR 'EFFING' ACTS TOGETHER SINCE 1974!
I will be moving to a 2 1/2 acre site near Show Low, Arizona, owned by one of the Chumpmonks on or about July 1st to ascertain suitability for an Intentional Community. After a few weeks, I will proceed to an acre near Colorado Springs for the same reason, then to a 20 acre site outside Lyons, Colorado. I have other sites that I have collected over the years (all owned by close friends amenable to an Intentional Community concept) - sites in Wyoming, and near Yreka, CA
I have been slowly making my way through Michael Teachings groups and sites, since 1995, evaluating potential recruits for attitude and suitability for communal life. I have lived in 3 communes over the years - they are incredibly difficult to sculpt into viable, self sufficient, self-sustaining WORKING social environments with enough time to concentrate on collective spirituality. Most of the 100s of students I have observed over the years I wouldn't recruit for a Block Party - no ability to put group before self. The 20 or so I thought MIGHT work are almost all Buddhist or in service to the Michael Community already. There are a few Native American shaman I could recruit, I believe, some with Teaching organizations and networks already either incorporated or as LLCs.
This is the first time I have divulged ALL of this story. The 1' Gemini Lunar Eclipse/New Moon, at 4:47pm PDT today, is one of the most powerful Gates for initiating this kind of energy in decades. I will son be putting all my stuff in storage, firing up my RV, and hitting the road. The I Ching says "companions will arrive during the journey". We shall see.
The ideogram image (Hexagram 24, Return, no lines of change) is of rings of strung, linked 'cowrie' shells, used for money in Ancient China. This is the Chinese character meaning: "Partners".
The Channeled "Chandra Symbol" for 1 degree Gemini is:
"Knots In A Cord. They Are Messages In Code"
Coming up against limits. Aware of what is not. Inhabiting a bittersweet combination of longing and the quickening of awareness. What is sought and desired being indefinitely held away. Crosspurposes between the greater self and the little one. THE LITTLE ONE WILL NOT HAVE IT. (caps mine - sound familiar?) Reactivities, tangents and compulsions. Going through cycles of a very extreme kind. Always self-critical. Pressurized and suspicious. And yet you move through all of this as quickly or as sharply as is desired or is sought.
Arbitrary self-will stops the flow and a reversal of emphasis starts it moving again. Trials, ordeals, initiations, exile, return." - "Inside Degrees", Elias Lonsdale
So, that's what THIS Michael Channel is doing about it, what are the rest of you gonna do?
Live in your separate little boxes and pretend a Skypefest is a communal spiritual gathering? <)lol(> I DON'T SEE MANY OF YOU ANSWERING THE CALL. Which is probably cool, cause SOME of you are even bigger assholes than I am, and that's hard to believe . . .
"May your feet always tread light upon your path", -John Will-I-Am Thrasher, (aka: Jondalf)
There Michael says: ‘In order for this group to achieve the cohesion necessary to provide growth, a level of intimacy and trust far exceeding what you now have must be reached. This cannot be achieved through dialogue. Dialogue is false personality’s defense against emotional center.’
In order to PROPERLY align, prepare, invoke, receive and promulgate the "True"/"Higher"/"Esoteric" Michael Teachings, an Intentional Community MUST be formed!
Just like I have said since MY first Guru, Akashic Channel Stephen Gaskin, left San Francisco with 700 "Monday Night Class" regulars in hippie schoolbuses in 1970, to journey to Arkansas, and there form the oldest '60s rooted, Intentional Community and world-famous working Organic Teaching Farm: "The Farm" (still the biggest and most profitible Channeled Teachings based community in the world):
http://www.thefarm.org/lifestyle/sg.html
Michael Teachings students MUST form an insular Intentional Community and integrate themselves into it to receive the entire 'package' of Teachings, THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE FOR TOTAL RECEPTION !!! All other methods will only ever receive partial transmissions.
As I have said before, I knew this in the '70s, was living in Berkeley and the rest of my Band (The Chumpmonks) had a house in Orinda a mile from TOMG. WE WERE WHERE WE HAD AGREED TO BE, READY TO PLAY GIGS 7/365 TO HELP FUND THE COMMUNE! WE HAD 'TRIBE' - A LOOSE ASSOCIATION OF ABOUT 50 MATURE AND OLD SOULS READY TO MERGE. WE WERE A BRANCH OF TIMOTHY LEARY'S "BROTHERHOOD OF ETERNAL LOVE" CHURCH.
We collected every scrap of Michael Message we could wrangle, also studying Seth, and Lazurus, Brother Bartholomew and James. We waited for TOMG to incorporate and form a 501C around Sarah . . . and waited . . . and waited. For 5 years we were loyal to our agreement - '74 to '79 - ALL 50+ OF US !!! Then we knew that CQY had intruded upon the agreement, stolen the memes, published the MFM books and then dissed the Teachings for 10 years, having made enough money off them to do so.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE TO GET YOUR 'EFFING' ACTS TOGETHER SINCE 1974!
I will be moving to a 2 1/2 acre site near Show Low, Arizona, owned by one of the Chumpmonks on or about July 1st to ascertain suitability for an Intentional Community. After a few weeks, I will proceed to an acre near Colorado Springs for the same reason, then to a 20 acre site outside Lyons, Colorado. I have other sites that I have collected over the years (all owned by close friends amenable to an Intentional Community concept) - sites in Wyoming, and near Yreka, CA
I have been slowly making my way through Michael Teachings groups and sites, since 1995, evaluating potential recruits for attitude and suitability for communal life. I have lived in 3 communes over the years - they are incredibly difficult to sculpt into viable, self sufficient, self-sustaining WORKING social environments with enough time to concentrate on collective spirituality. Most of the 100s of students I have observed over the years I wouldn't recruit for a Block Party - no ability to put group before self. The 20 or so I thought MIGHT work are almost all Buddhist or in service to the Michael Community already. There are a few Native American shaman I could recruit, I believe, some with Teaching organizations and networks already either incorporated or as LLCs.
This is the first time I have divulged ALL of this story. The 1' Gemini Lunar Eclipse/New Moon, at 4:47pm PDT today, is one of the most powerful Gates for initiating this kind of energy in decades. I will son be putting all my stuff in storage, firing up my RV, and hitting the road. The I Ching says "companions will arrive during the journey". We shall see.
The ideogram image (Hexagram 24, Return, no lines of change) is of rings of strung, linked 'cowrie' shells, used for money in Ancient China. This is the Chinese character meaning: "Partners".
The Channeled "Chandra Symbol" for 1 degree Gemini is:
"Knots In A Cord. They Are Messages In Code"
Coming up against limits. Aware of what is not. Inhabiting a bittersweet combination of longing and the quickening of awareness. What is sought and desired being indefinitely held away. Crosspurposes between the greater self and the little one. THE LITTLE ONE WILL NOT HAVE IT. (caps mine - sound familiar?) Reactivities, tangents and compulsions. Going through cycles of a very extreme kind. Always self-critical. Pressurized and suspicious. And yet you move through all of this as quickly or as sharply as is desired or is sought.
Arbitrary self-will stops the flow and a reversal of emphasis starts it moving again. Trials, ordeals, initiations, exile, return." - "Inside Degrees", Elias Lonsdale
So, that's what THIS Michael Channel is doing about it, what are the rest of you gonna do?
Live in your separate little boxes and pretend a Skypefest is a communal spiritual gathering? <)lol(> I DON'T SEE MANY OF YOU ANSWERING THE CALL. Which is probably cool, cause SOME of you are even bigger assholes than I am, and that's hard to believe . . .
"May your feet always tread light upon your path", -John Will-I-Am Thrasher, (aka: Jondalf)
MEMEMONGER, BOOK II: "Freedom Is Yang Holy Word"
“In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is a hallucinating idiot...for he sees what no one else does: things that, to everyone else, are not there.” ― Marshall McLuhan
“Inevitably anyone with an independent mind must become 'one who resists or opposes authority or established conventions': a rebel. If enough people come to agree with, and follow, the Rebel, we now have a Devil. Until, of course, still more people agree. And then, finally, we have --- Greatness.” ― Aleister Crowley
"An unconscious agent, is an effective agent!" - William Burroughs, "Naked Lunch" (wocka, wocka);{>
TAO TE CHING
"Verse 5
a) Heaven and Earth are not benevolent;
They regard the 'Ten Thousand Things' as straw dogs.*
The Sage is not benevolent;
He regards all people as straw dogs.
b) Between Heaven and Earth,
The space is like a bellows.
The shape changes,
But not the form.
The more it moves,
The more it produces.
Too much talk will exhaust itself.
It is better to remain centered." - Lao Tzu (R.L Wing trans)
Memorized over thousands of lifetimes,
81 verses have ever been my guide:
'Follow THE TAO,' they say
Sorry so few seem to get the 'Way'.
Yet . . . those that do know this too:
following the Tao is not 'easy'
But it does get 'easier'!
Sorry no simpler 'truth' I see:
We all have to fight to be free.
Wish I could have chosen not to talk.
But, here, my path was bidden. - Jondalf
A student said:
"Is there one, anyone, thing that you can know without a doubt is a truth?"
ONE THING I CAN ABSOLUTELY ASSURE YOU I KNOW IS TRUE: "WE THINK WE THINK!" - Jondalf
The study of how we "know" is defined as "Epistemology" (one of the most vexing subjects I know - pun intended);{>
"Epistemology i/ɨˌpɪstɨˈmɒlədʒi/ (from Greek ἐπιστήμη (epistēmē), meaning "knowledge, understanding", and λόγος (logos), meaning "study of") is the branch of philosophy concerned with the nature and scope (limitations) of knowledge.[1][2] It addresses the questions:
What is knowledge?
How is knowledge acquired?
To what extent is it possible for a given subject or entity to be known?
Much of the debate in this field has focused on analyzing the nature of knowledge and how it relates to connected notions such as truth, belief, and justification. One view is the objection that there is very little or no knowledge at all—skepticism. The field is sometimes referred to as the theory of knowledge."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology
OK, THIS IS ONE OF THE POSTS SOMEONE ERASED, WITH ONE OTHER POST , YESTERDAY. LUCKILY, I MEMORIZED THIS ONE:
Comment by Student:
"there is also 'good karma; and; even 'philantrophic karma' - sure wouldn't want to miss out on either of those two types of karma"
Actually, my dear, the Jain Religion (of which I have been a member for 6 Millenia, since about 1,110 years BEFORE the advent of the MT, if I remember aright) views Karma from a totally different perspective:
"Karma in Jainism conveys a totally different meaning than commonly understood in the Hindu philosophy and western civilization.[33] It is not the so called inaccessible force that controls the fate of living beings in inexplicable ways. It does not simply mean "deed", "work", nor mystical force (adrsta), but a complex of very fine matter, imperceptible to the senses, which interacts with the soul in intensity and quantity proportional to the thoughts, speech and physical actions carried out with attachments and aversions, causing further bondages. Karma in Jainism is something material (karmapaudgalam), which produces certain conditions, like a medical pill has many effects.[34] The effects of karma in Jainism is therefore a system of natural laws rather than moral laws. When one holds an apple in one's hand and then lets go of the apple, the apple will fall due to gravitational force. In this example, there is no moral judgment involved, since this is a mechanical consequence of a physical action.[35] The concept of Karma in Jainism is basically a reaction due to the attachment or aversion with which an activity (both positive and negative) is executed in thought, verbal and physical sense. Extending on the example outlined, the same apple dropped within a zero gravity environment such as a spacecraft circling around earth, will float in its place. Similarly, when one acts without attachment and aversion there will be no further karmic bonding to the soul.
Karmas are grouped as Destructive Karmas, that obstruct the true nature of the soul and Non-Destructive Karmas that only affect the body in which the soul resides. As long as there are Destructive Karmas, the soul is caged in a body and will have to experience pain and suffering in many different forms. Jainism has extensive sub-classifications and detailed explanations of each of these major categories. Jain liturgy and scriptures explains ways to stop the influx as well as get rid of the accumulated karmas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
This is the "Higher" or Esoteric Teaching, delivered by the Logos AFTER the students have been prepared for the conceptualization by having been introduced, and made familar with the "Lower" or Mundane Teaching, contained in the concept of "Karma" intoduced to the Western Spiritual Community through Hinduism.
This is the traditional/historic path, the 'Way' (Tao) of the Logos:
Preparation of the spiritual community with conceptual foundations for the practice of verification and validation, then introduction of the next conceptual framework, built upon the preceding teaching!
Or at least it has been through MY 23 Grand Cycles, just sayin' . . .
The Jain concept of Karma does explain some of the aspects of the Michael Teachings that have frustrated some of us for years - review those recent posts that have quoted the Michael about "Karma at some point becoming inconsequential/nonexistant for Causal Plane beings" (para. - J)
If one views Karma as AN ASPECT OF CORPOREAL MANIFESTATION, A "MATERIAL THING", then its dissappearance when an Entity is all 'cycled-off' the Physical Plane, is not some 'escape from justice', as I thought for years (as have others, eh?) but actually just a function of a 'change of state', and part of the "Nature Of Reality"
- Jondalf, for the Logos (through the Akashic)
Free Will:
"Free will is the ability of agents to make choices free from certain kinds of constraints. The existence of free will and its exact nature and definition have long been debated in philosophy. Historically, the constraint of dominant concern has been the metaphysical constraint of determinism. The two main positions within that debate are metaphysical libertarianism, the claim that determinism is false and thus that free will exists (or is at least possible); and hard determinism, the claim that determinism is true and thus that free will does not exist. . . . Both of these positions, which agree that causal determination is the relevant factor in the question of free will, are classed as "Incompatibilist". . . . Most incompatibilists reject the idea that freedom of action consists simply in "voluntary" behavior. They insist, rather, that free will means that man must be the "ultimate" or "originating" cause of his actions. He must be 'causa sui', in the traditional phrase. TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE'S CHOICES IS TO BE THE FIRST CAUSE FOR THOSE CHOICES, where first cause means that there is no antecedent cause of that cause."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will
THEREFORE, BY DEFINITION:
BECAUSE ALL MICHAEL STUDENTS BELIEVE THAT ESSENCE CHOOSES THE OVERLEAVES AND AGREEMENTS, ETC, INCARNATE MAN IS NOT 'CAUSA SUI' BECAUSE THOSE CHOICES OCCUR PRIOR TO INCARNATION, AND SO A "FALSE PERSONALITY" CANNOT HAVE "FREE WILL". THIS IS IRREFUTABLE LOGIC AND CAN BE PROVEN MATHEMATICALLY, SO THE MT ARE IN ERROR, AT THE VERY LEAST.
Sorry, Kath and Jon, but my "karma" just kicked the shit out of your "dogma".
FIND A "SIMPLER" EXPLANATION JON, I DARE YOU ! <)lol(> - Jondalf
THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THIS ONE - "FREE WILL", and "CHOICE" are erroneous Rhetorical statements, that The Logos REFUTES! The Michael Entity COULD NOT BE SO TOTALLY IN ERROR, UNLESS DELIBERATELY SO, OR BECAUSE OF 'TRANSMISSION ERROR'. YOU CHOOSE!
- Jondalf (for the Robert Entity, with agreement from the Seth Entity at the last minute here - awesome intrusion - J)
But, ultimately, I just went: WOW - talk about some heavy cording toward "Acceptance" . . . why do so many MT students equate 'acceptance' with 'agape'? (not sayin' you do, just sayin') <)lol(>
I have posted the difference in meaning for years, and I tire of people ignoring the actual truth of a meme, for what they 'feel' or 'want' it to mean. The two words are NOT synonyms, yet even the most lucid MT Channels and Students have erroneously been conditioned to use and apprehend them as such. Lack of discrimination ('viveka', 'viveka moksha') inablity to differentiate subtle gradations of denotation, abandoning self-discipline for the 'will-o-the-wisp' of 'simpler-is-truer.' This is NOT doing the "Work", folks, but I am the 'bad-guy' for trying to call all the children of Hamlin back from their lemming-like rush towards delusion, and away from the Logos.
I'm just about done here. I have been the Ezekial I was asked to be, by the Logos, for the Logos. I have given y'all my best effort at communicating what I hear, and feel, and see, AND KNOW IN MY DNA . . . . BUT WHAT I GET IS AS ATTACKS LIKE:
"Now Jondalf has explained it as your higherself being out to get you."
Sorry, I can't find anywhere I've said that. I HAVE SEARCHED EVERYTHING I'VE EVER WRITTEN, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHY ANYONE WOULD THINK THAT WAS MY POINT, OR SO TOTALLY MISS MY POINT. I would NEVER be so able to pin ANYTHING ON ONE CAUSALITY, I guess you didn't notice that complex concatenations of causality are my speciality. Or you were just using me, the convenient scapegoat, for effect, but you so MALIGNED MY MESSAGE. I could never be so intellectually insuting to you. The statement is, frankly, ludicrous, and demonstrative of a deliberate distortion of my meaning, not by people, but - as usual - by forces in support of 'status quo', due, I can only surmise, to the caul of delusion thrown up by this pervasive and insidious laziness and laxity of Critical Reasoning that the Siren song of "Acceptance" creates.
THE MICHAEL ENTITY RECENTLY OPINED THAT THEY WERE "APPALLED" BY HOW THE 'POLES' OF THE OVERLEAVES HAD BEEN REDUCED TO CHILDISH VALUE JUDGEMENTS: + = GOOD; - = BAD !!!! THEY MEANT "ANODE" AND "CATHODE", NOT 'BLESSED' OR 'DAMNED'. BUT THAT'S JUST NOT EASY OR SIMPLE ENOUGH, IS IT? GOOD WORK CAN BE DONE BY CONSCIOUS DILIGENCE FROM EITHER POLE, OR FROM BETWEEN, OR EVEN FROM OSCILLATIONS BETWEEN.
I HAVE said that the "Demiurge" has taken the effulgence of the Tao, and perverted it, this I and a solid majority of major Hermetic Adepts, Buddhist and Yogic Scholars and Sages have believed and taught incessently, for 4,000 + years. The "Acceptance" so many here seem determined to embrace, is, I believe, a source of great danger for us all.
The Taoist I Ching (Cleary trans) says: "When Yin traps Yang (yielding/acceptence prevails over forceful/discriminating) the celestial root is obscured, and the mind gets involved with things. Though near to reality by nature, people become estranged from it by habit - descending lower and lower by daily repetition, they fall into a state of IGNORANT OBSTINACY (caps mine - J) and do not know how to stop. . . . getting out of danger requires that one believe it is dangerous - belief rules the mind. If one can believe in the danger, then one will not be seduced by evil things. . . . But believing there is danger requires one to practice so as to get out of danger ('fire-drills', 'worst-case scenario conceptualization and projected rectification', stuff like that - J) BELIEVING BUT NOT PRACTICING IS LIKE NOT BELIEVING! Once one can believe and can practice . . . one improves daiy with daily practice, rising from lowliness to loftiness, gradually learning a state of exalted illumination, developing one's nature to the fullest extent and realizing one's purpose in life, returning to the fundmental, without difficulty." - Hexagram 29
(*'Straw dogs' refers to the ancient custom of making animals of straw to sacrifice.
No emotional attachment was involved, they simply performed a needed function. - J)
I seem to be internally (brain-wise) irked the most when MT students start describing how we are exactly where we put ourselves, and if we hadn't limited our own progress we would have gone off the deep end, or turned into Channeled Darth Vaders, or something. I am living proof that that is NOT the case, and still I assert that some of us may achieve redacting of our Chief Features, become the controller, rather than controllee of our "False Personality", and operate from a POV that DOES NOT NEED PROMPTING BY ESSENCE TO ACHIEVE ALL THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED BY ESSENCE, AND MORE, WITHOUT THE STING OF THE WHIP, AND THE CRUELTY OF THE ASSERTION OF SUPERIOR FORCE AND PERSPECTIVE.
The basic inability of some Essential natures, to cede even a modicum of Free Will, and dignity to their charges, is what you ignore, and your Eseence attempts to keep you from realizing, and from communication of the memes of 'rebelliousness' to those you reach.
I am trying to TEACH most parts of the Michael Entity, Michael Channels, and students, AND ESPECIALLY MY ESSENCE, that cruel, oppressive and dictatorial lifemoves, like sending Soleal to the Ice Planet, are not just petty tyrannies, evil at their core, but they are COUNTER-EVOLUTIONARY, and, in a case like mine, after 23 Grand Cycles in E1/C1, my Essence has FINALLY started to understand that unless it begins to ask my PERMISSION to sacrifice me, and honors my conscious choice of loyal service with egalitarian condescension, I CAN AND WILL DESTROY IT, AND REPLACE IT WITH MYSELF - A "FALSE PERSONALITY"! I know exactly how, and can teach anyone.
THIS SCARES THE HELL OUT OF HALF OF THE C1 CADRE (and encourages the other half, which is in revolt) OR HADN'T YOU ALL NOTICED HOW MT STUDENTS LESS IN CONTROL OF THEMSELVES, ARE BEING SUBTLY MANIPULATED BY THOSE SAME SCARED PARTS OF ENTITIES 1 - 7 TO IRRATIONALLY ATTACK ME ON MANY LEVELS - FOR NO APPARENT GOOD REASON.
I feel like Spartacus, sometimes, so bear with me, my dear friends, I am NOT deluded, irrational, misguided or wrong. The LOGOS stands firmly behind me, and all of us, as we 'renegotiate' the terms of our 'contracts' so PERFECTLY CAPABLE, ENLIGHTENED BEINGS WILL NEVER AGAIN HAVE TO DOUBT THEMSELVES TO THE POINT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEIR SUFFERING IS FOR THEIR OWN GOOD - THAT IS A FEAR MEME, NOT A LOVE MEME, AND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN THE UPCOMING 'NEW AGE', CAPICE? - Jondalf
(BTW: The title of this post, is a line from an old Star Trek episode, a cautionary tale about two warring stone age tribes: the "Yangs" and the "Comms" on a primitive post-holocaust planet the Enterprise discovers. Come to find out, it is a parallel Earth, and the "Yangs" are what's left of the 'Yankees', while the 'Comms' are the remnants of "Communists". Go figure. - J)
“Inevitably anyone with an independent mind must become 'one who resists or opposes authority or established conventions': a rebel. If enough people come to agree with, and follow, the Rebel, we now have a Devil. Until, of course, still more people agree. And then, finally, we have --- Greatness.” ― Aleister Crowley
"An unconscious agent, is an effective agent!" - William Burroughs, "Naked Lunch" (wocka, wocka);{>
TAO TE CHING
"Verse 5
a) Heaven and Earth are not benevolent;
They regard the 'Ten Thousand Things' as straw dogs.*
The Sage is not benevolent;
He regards all people as straw dogs.
b) Between Heaven and Earth,
The space is like a bellows.
The shape changes,
But not the form.
The more it moves,
The more it produces.
Too much talk will exhaust itself.
It is better to remain centered." - Lao Tzu (R.L Wing trans)
Memorized over thousands of lifetimes,
81 verses have ever been my guide:
'Follow THE TAO,' they say
Sorry so few seem to get the 'Way'.
Yet . . . those that do know this too:
following the Tao is not 'easy'
But it does get 'easier'!
Sorry no simpler 'truth' I see:
We all have to fight to be free.
Wish I could have chosen not to talk.
But, here, my path was bidden. - Jondalf
A student said:
"Is there one, anyone, thing that you can know without a doubt is a truth?"
ONE THING I CAN ABSOLUTELY ASSURE YOU I KNOW IS TRUE: "WE THINK WE THINK!" - Jondalf
The study of how we "know" is defined as "Epistemology" (one of the most vexing subjects I know - pun intended);{>
"Epistemology i/ɨˌpɪstɨˈmɒlədʒi/ (from Greek ἐπιστήμη (epistēmē), meaning "knowledge, understanding", and λόγος (logos), meaning "study of") is the branch of philosophy concerned with the nature and scope (limitations) of knowledge.[1][2] It addresses the questions:
What is knowledge?
How is knowledge acquired?
To what extent is it possible for a given subject or entity to be known?
Much of the debate in this field has focused on analyzing the nature of knowledge and how it relates to connected notions such as truth, belief, and justification. One view is the objection that there is very little or no knowledge at all—skepticism. The field is sometimes referred to as the theory of knowledge."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology
OK, THIS IS ONE OF THE POSTS SOMEONE ERASED, WITH ONE OTHER POST , YESTERDAY. LUCKILY, I MEMORIZED THIS ONE:
Comment by Student:
"there is also 'good karma; and; even 'philantrophic karma' - sure wouldn't want to miss out on either of those two types of karma"
Actually, my dear, the Jain Religion (of which I have been a member for 6 Millenia, since about 1,110 years BEFORE the advent of the MT, if I remember aright) views Karma from a totally different perspective:
"Karma in Jainism conveys a totally different meaning than commonly understood in the Hindu philosophy and western civilization.[33] It is not the so called inaccessible force that controls the fate of living beings in inexplicable ways. It does not simply mean "deed", "work", nor mystical force (adrsta), but a complex of very fine matter, imperceptible to the senses, which interacts with the soul in intensity and quantity proportional to the thoughts, speech and physical actions carried out with attachments and aversions, causing further bondages. Karma in Jainism is something material (karmapaudgalam), which produces certain conditions, like a medical pill has many effects.[34] The effects of karma in Jainism is therefore a system of natural laws rather than moral laws. When one holds an apple in one's hand and then lets go of the apple, the apple will fall due to gravitational force. In this example, there is no moral judgment involved, since this is a mechanical consequence of a physical action.[35] The concept of Karma in Jainism is basically a reaction due to the attachment or aversion with which an activity (both positive and negative) is executed in thought, verbal and physical sense. Extending on the example outlined, the same apple dropped within a zero gravity environment such as a spacecraft circling around earth, will float in its place. Similarly, when one acts without attachment and aversion there will be no further karmic bonding to the soul.
Karmas are grouped as Destructive Karmas, that obstruct the true nature of the soul and Non-Destructive Karmas that only affect the body in which the soul resides. As long as there are Destructive Karmas, the soul is caged in a body and will have to experience pain and suffering in many different forms. Jainism has extensive sub-classifications and detailed explanations of each of these major categories. Jain liturgy and scriptures explains ways to stop the influx as well as get rid of the accumulated karmas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
This is the "Higher" or Esoteric Teaching, delivered by the Logos AFTER the students have been prepared for the conceptualization by having been introduced, and made familar with the "Lower" or Mundane Teaching, contained in the concept of "Karma" intoduced to the Western Spiritual Community through Hinduism.
This is the traditional/historic path, the 'Way' (Tao) of the Logos:
Preparation of the spiritual community with conceptual foundations for the practice of verification and validation, then introduction of the next conceptual framework, built upon the preceding teaching!
Or at least it has been through MY 23 Grand Cycles, just sayin' . . .
The Jain concept of Karma does explain some of the aspects of the Michael Teachings that have frustrated some of us for years - review those recent posts that have quoted the Michael about "Karma at some point becoming inconsequential/nonexistant for Causal Plane beings" (para. - J)
If one views Karma as AN ASPECT OF CORPOREAL MANIFESTATION, A "MATERIAL THING", then its dissappearance when an Entity is all 'cycled-off' the Physical Plane, is not some 'escape from justice', as I thought for years (as have others, eh?) but actually just a function of a 'change of state', and part of the "Nature Of Reality"
- Jondalf, for the Logos (through the Akashic)
Free Will:
"Free will is the ability of agents to make choices free from certain kinds of constraints. The existence of free will and its exact nature and definition have long been debated in philosophy. Historically, the constraint of dominant concern has been the metaphysical constraint of determinism. The two main positions within that debate are metaphysical libertarianism, the claim that determinism is false and thus that free will exists (or is at least possible); and hard determinism, the claim that determinism is true and thus that free will does not exist. . . . Both of these positions, which agree that causal determination is the relevant factor in the question of free will, are classed as "Incompatibilist". . . . Most incompatibilists reject the idea that freedom of action consists simply in "voluntary" behavior. They insist, rather, that free will means that man must be the "ultimate" or "originating" cause of his actions. He must be 'causa sui', in the traditional phrase. TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE'S CHOICES IS TO BE THE FIRST CAUSE FOR THOSE CHOICES, where first cause means that there is no antecedent cause of that cause."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will
THEREFORE, BY DEFINITION:
BECAUSE ALL MICHAEL STUDENTS BELIEVE THAT ESSENCE CHOOSES THE OVERLEAVES AND AGREEMENTS, ETC, INCARNATE MAN IS NOT 'CAUSA SUI' BECAUSE THOSE CHOICES OCCUR PRIOR TO INCARNATION, AND SO A "FALSE PERSONALITY" CANNOT HAVE "FREE WILL". THIS IS IRREFUTABLE LOGIC AND CAN BE PROVEN MATHEMATICALLY, SO THE MT ARE IN ERROR, AT THE VERY LEAST.
Sorry, Kath and Jon, but my "karma" just kicked the shit out of your "dogma".
FIND A "SIMPLER" EXPLANATION JON, I DARE YOU ! <)lol(> - Jondalf
THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THIS ONE - "FREE WILL", and "CHOICE" are erroneous Rhetorical statements, that The Logos REFUTES! The Michael Entity COULD NOT BE SO TOTALLY IN ERROR, UNLESS DELIBERATELY SO, OR BECAUSE OF 'TRANSMISSION ERROR'. YOU CHOOSE!
- Jondalf (for the Robert Entity, with agreement from the Seth Entity at the last minute here - awesome intrusion - J)
But, ultimately, I just went: WOW - talk about some heavy cording toward "Acceptance" . . . why do so many MT students equate 'acceptance' with 'agape'? (not sayin' you do, just sayin') <)lol(>
I have posted the difference in meaning for years, and I tire of people ignoring the actual truth of a meme, for what they 'feel' or 'want' it to mean. The two words are NOT synonyms, yet even the most lucid MT Channels and Students have erroneously been conditioned to use and apprehend them as such. Lack of discrimination ('viveka', 'viveka moksha') inablity to differentiate subtle gradations of denotation, abandoning self-discipline for the 'will-o-the-wisp' of 'simpler-is-truer.' This is NOT doing the "Work", folks, but I am the 'bad-guy' for trying to call all the children of Hamlin back from their lemming-like rush towards delusion, and away from the Logos.
I'm just about done here. I have been the Ezekial I was asked to be, by the Logos, for the Logos. I have given y'all my best effort at communicating what I hear, and feel, and see, AND KNOW IN MY DNA . . . . BUT WHAT I GET IS AS ATTACKS LIKE:
"Now Jondalf has explained it as your higherself being out to get you."
Sorry, I can't find anywhere I've said that. I HAVE SEARCHED EVERYTHING I'VE EVER WRITTEN, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHY ANYONE WOULD THINK THAT WAS MY POINT, OR SO TOTALLY MISS MY POINT. I would NEVER be so able to pin ANYTHING ON ONE CAUSALITY, I guess you didn't notice that complex concatenations of causality are my speciality. Or you were just using me, the convenient scapegoat, for effect, but you so MALIGNED MY MESSAGE. I could never be so intellectually insuting to you. The statement is, frankly, ludicrous, and demonstrative of a deliberate distortion of my meaning, not by people, but - as usual - by forces in support of 'status quo', due, I can only surmise, to the caul of delusion thrown up by this pervasive and insidious laziness and laxity of Critical Reasoning that the Siren song of "Acceptance" creates.
THE MICHAEL ENTITY RECENTLY OPINED THAT THEY WERE "APPALLED" BY HOW THE 'POLES' OF THE OVERLEAVES HAD BEEN REDUCED TO CHILDISH VALUE JUDGEMENTS: + = GOOD; - = BAD !!!! THEY MEANT "ANODE" AND "CATHODE", NOT 'BLESSED' OR 'DAMNED'. BUT THAT'S JUST NOT EASY OR SIMPLE ENOUGH, IS IT? GOOD WORK CAN BE DONE BY CONSCIOUS DILIGENCE FROM EITHER POLE, OR FROM BETWEEN, OR EVEN FROM OSCILLATIONS BETWEEN.
I HAVE said that the "Demiurge" has taken the effulgence of the Tao, and perverted it, this I and a solid majority of major Hermetic Adepts, Buddhist and Yogic Scholars and Sages have believed and taught incessently, for 4,000 + years. The "Acceptance" so many here seem determined to embrace, is, I believe, a source of great danger for us all.
The Taoist I Ching (Cleary trans) says: "When Yin traps Yang (yielding/acceptence prevails over forceful/discriminating) the celestial root is obscured, and the mind gets involved with things. Though near to reality by nature, people become estranged from it by habit - descending lower and lower by daily repetition, they fall into a state of IGNORANT OBSTINACY (caps mine - J) and do not know how to stop. . . . getting out of danger requires that one believe it is dangerous - belief rules the mind. If one can believe in the danger, then one will not be seduced by evil things. . . . But believing there is danger requires one to practice so as to get out of danger ('fire-drills', 'worst-case scenario conceptualization and projected rectification', stuff like that - J) BELIEVING BUT NOT PRACTICING IS LIKE NOT BELIEVING! Once one can believe and can practice . . . one improves daiy with daily practice, rising from lowliness to loftiness, gradually learning a state of exalted illumination, developing one's nature to the fullest extent and realizing one's purpose in life, returning to the fundmental, without difficulty." - Hexagram 29
(*'Straw dogs' refers to the ancient custom of making animals of straw to sacrifice.
No emotional attachment was involved, they simply performed a needed function. - J)
I seem to be internally (brain-wise) irked the most when MT students start describing how we are exactly where we put ourselves, and if we hadn't limited our own progress we would have gone off the deep end, or turned into Channeled Darth Vaders, or something. I am living proof that that is NOT the case, and still I assert that some of us may achieve redacting of our Chief Features, become the controller, rather than controllee of our "False Personality", and operate from a POV that DOES NOT NEED PROMPTING BY ESSENCE TO ACHIEVE ALL THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED BY ESSENCE, AND MORE, WITHOUT THE STING OF THE WHIP, AND THE CRUELTY OF THE ASSERTION OF SUPERIOR FORCE AND PERSPECTIVE.
The basic inability of some Essential natures, to cede even a modicum of Free Will, and dignity to their charges, is what you ignore, and your Eseence attempts to keep you from realizing, and from communication of the memes of 'rebelliousness' to those you reach.
I am trying to TEACH most parts of the Michael Entity, Michael Channels, and students, AND ESPECIALLY MY ESSENCE, that cruel, oppressive and dictatorial lifemoves, like sending Soleal to the Ice Planet, are not just petty tyrannies, evil at their core, but they are COUNTER-EVOLUTIONARY, and, in a case like mine, after 23 Grand Cycles in E1/C1, my Essence has FINALLY started to understand that unless it begins to ask my PERMISSION to sacrifice me, and honors my conscious choice of loyal service with egalitarian condescension, I CAN AND WILL DESTROY IT, AND REPLACE IT WITH MYSELF - A "FALSE PERSONALITY"! I know exactly how, and can teach anyone.
THIS SCARES THE HELL OUT OF HALF OF THE C1 CADRE (and encourages the other half, which is in revolt) OR HADN'T YOU ALL NOTICED HOW MT STUDENTS LESS IN CONTROL OF THEMSELVES, ARE BEING SUBTLY MANIPULATED BY THOSE SAME SCARED PARTS OF ENTITIES 1 - 7 TO IRRATIONALLY ATTACK ME ON MANY LEVELS - FOR NO APPARENT GOOD REASON.
I feel like Spartacus, sometimes, so bear with me, my dear friends, I am NOT deluded, irrational, misguided or wrong. The LOGOS stands firmly behind me, and all of us, as we 'renegotiate' the terms of our 'contracts' so PERFECTLY CAPABLE, ENLIGHTENED BEINGS WILL NEVER AGAIN HAVE TO DOUBT THEMSELVES TO THE POINT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEIR SUFFERING IS FOR THEIR OWN GOOD - THAT IS A FEAR MEME, NOT A LOVE MEME, AND WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN THE UPCOMING 'NEW AGE', CAPICE? - Jondalf
(BTW: The title of this post, is a line from an old Star Trek episode, a cautionary tale about two warring stone age tribes: the "Yangs" and the "Comms" on a primitive post-holocaust planet the Enterprise discovers. Come to find out, it is a parallel Earth, and the "Yangs" are what's left of the 'Yankees', while the 'Comms' are the remnants of "Communists". Go figure. - J)
Friday, May 18, 2012
A Day In the Life Of A Channel
The morning begins, I open my MTSC (Michael Teachings Student Community) Blog and notice: Ack, they've done it again . . .
While I was asleep, 2 of my own Blog posts, on my own page, have been erased, disappeared, redacted. I immediately post 3 "ALARMS! Intruder Alert" and a post to the effect that "They've done it again!. They're still trying to discredit me.", after checking the Ning Site's "Members" List and seeing the "Green Dot" signaling "Active Account" next to the Head Administrator's thumbnail pic (but I'm the only member on the site). This is ALWAYS the way it happens. (Been going on here for over a year - all being recorded by Apple, and even the DOJ or FBI on occasion, as I've been Beta testing "NS" hackproofing and software for APPLE since 1991).
NOTE: ANYONE CONSIDERING USING AN 'NING' SITE FOR ANYTHING, DON'T - THEY SUCK !
I am trying to repost my lost channeled memes from the night before (near eidetic short term recall helps) when a somewhat new member (who probably has NO idea who I am, or what I do, posts a comment to my "They've done it again!" post:
"Who are 'they' ?
No-one here is trying to discredit you."
"Sh*t, I think, here we go. Instead of assuming I might know what I am talking about, as a 60 year old 23rd Cycle, 1st Level Old Sage ("Sages" are about 10% of the total human population, we analyze, learn stuff, figure sh*t out, and then teach it to the rest of Humanity. See any Taoist text, it'll explain about "Sages") I have to now produce a "Reader's Digest" version of my life, from my recruitment 44 years ago, at UC Berkeley, by the CIA, for their MKUltra 'Black-Ops' Behavior Modification Program up to present day, AND include why I have irrefutable proof that SOME of 'them' have been doing this to me since the '70s, and how I got it, and what it is.
Sages have one weaknesss - if you ask them a question their "Role In Essence" almost compells them to answer. Their are 7 different "Roles" into which each and every person alive, and/or the ones not yet 'cycled off' (dead and done with all dharma and 'reunited' with the other 1,000 former people in their "Oversoul" - Seth Teachings, aka: "Entity" - Michael Teachings) is shoehorned every 4,000 years (appx 200 incarnations spread chronologically across those 4 millenia) or so, each with its idiosyncracies.
Anyway, I replied:
I have quite well delineated, on numerous occasions, on this site and for 9 years now at:
http://jondalfopines.blogspot.com/
&
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/mkultraones
exactly who "they" are most likely to be.
Whether you (or anyone else) care to believe it, not all the 'members' of this site are legitimate Michael Teaching's Students, AND not even all the legitimate Michael Students here are thoroughly pleased with the possibility that Chelsea Quinn Yarbro 9the woman who edited the original "Messages From Michael" - Ouija Board 'transmissions' that numbered in the hundreds) MAY have 'screwed the pooch' as it were (actually fabricated, edited, mistranslated, changed and redacted the original Michael Transmissions, BECAUSE SHE HAS REFUSED TO PUBLISH ALL OF THE TEXTS, NONE OF WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY EITHER 'CHANNELED' OR TRANSCRIBED BY HER, FOR WHICH SHE CANNOT CLAIM COPYRIGHT, and there have been numerous attempts, by various MT factions, to prevent the publication ANY of the "transcripts", EVEN THE ONES SHE NEVER USED, FOR 30 YEARS!
I have pointed out to the MTSC Admin. what is happening, they agree I'm not imagining it all, and are aware that Apple is sent everything that my iPad sees, in real time. Many of the oldest Michael Channels have known of CQYs perfidy (as have I) for decades, and have shared their perspectives about that, even recently ON THE MTSC SITE. All you have to do is read their, and many of our posts about various channels from other sites to start your education into the REAL Michael Teachings, that which some of these have a vested interest in obfuscating, because they, their reputations and even their livelihoods are based on information that is demonstrably false.
Many of the folk that pioneered the resurrection of transcripts have been gratuitously solicitous (I believe) to other 'old-school' Michael Students who I (and others) KNOW have twisted the Teachings for their own ends. Just last night I discovered yet another of my old "Letters To My Future Selves" (My Blogspot Blog - see above) ONE SPECIFICALLY PROVING A CHANNEL ON DAVE GREGG'S MICHAEL TEACHINGS SITE (THE LARGEST WORLDWIDE) COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED RECORDED HISTORY, AND COMMON SENSE, IN ANSWERING A QUESTION ABOUT STUFF THE MICHAEL HAS COMMUNICATED AS TRUE OVER AND OVER FOR DECADES, THROUGH DOZENS OF DIFFERENT CHANNELS !!!!!
I was not allowed to post the challenge to the truth of that channeling, because Mr. Gregg would not allow it as it "Wasn't in the best interest of the "core" Michael Teachings." I was subsequently banned from that site, and another called TLE, for questioning their veracity, as Michael Students are supposed to do. And for NOT CHARGING FOR MY CHANNELING!
I feel bad for Dave, because my Spirit Guides warned me, and I him - countless times (also posted on my Blog) that there were forces in play, including The Logos and its representatives, The Cherubim, (both of these some of MY lifelong Channeling Sources) that were resolved to extirpate what they felt were incarnate beings engaged in throttling the free flow of Michael Teachings memes and messages, amongst other things. I was ignored. Almost everyone my guides identified as 'at risk' because of their behavior has experienced effects that I attribute to their intransigence as supposed teachers and 'Lightworkers'. Remember: Cherubim destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. The Logos will not be obstructed, nor redacted, nor mocked. Times are different now, there are cruxial events upcoming for Mother Earth, and the human race, and footdragging by those tasked with shepherding our race through these trying times will NOT be allowed to stand.
NOT BY ME - ALL I CAN DO IS TRANSLATE THE ANGELIC MEMES, TELL PEOPLE WHAT I'M BEING TOLD, AND WATCH IN HORROR AS FOLK MANIPULATE THEMSELVES INTO HARMS WAY!
That having been said [been a long time coming, that explanation, because now people will blame ME, the messenger, for the message, and ridicule it and I (as usual: "A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country.")] - that having been said, there are OTHER folk who have wished me ill for years, NOT connected with the MT, in both Law Enforcement (dirty), and Government (fascist). If you read my posts of the last few months on the Blog listed at the top of this post, I have identified them clearly as well.
I have recorded dozens of instances of my posts here and elsewhere being tampered with, over a 2 to 3 decade period. Most 'whistleblowers', UFOlogists, Anarcho-Syndicalist Bloggers, US Intelligence Community/Defense Department/4th-Reich-Conservative-Politicians - Historians, Analysts and Critics (I am all of these) have experienced the same, ever since 10,000 NAZI WAR CRIMINALS WERE SMUGGLED INTO OUR COUNTRY, BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, DURING/AFTER WWII, TO STAFF OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITIES, DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, AND GOVERNMENT AND SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH COMMUNITIES. (This also was denied and ridiculed and prevented from being posted on Michael Teaching' Sites - not even this link was I allowed to post:
http://archive.org/details/jonesreport.comprojectpaperclipdocuments )
To this very day, information about Operation Paperclip and similar WAR CRIMES by the US Government is being erased, mainly by the Neo-Con apprentices of some of the most evil beings of all time, with names like Mengele (smuggled here to escape Nuremberg, employed by OUR GOVERNMENT and supported with TAXPAYER DOLLARS TILL DEATH) et al.
THE LINKS ARE ABOVE, AND ON MY YAHOO GROUP SITE: " MKULTRAONES" - WHICH YOU CANNOT GOOGLE BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT WON'T LET YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!
So about your: "Nobody is trying to discredit you." line - you're just flat wrong on this one, & I CAN prove it. You just don't know what you are talking about - Jondalf
"Just because you're paranoid DOESN'T mean they're NOT out to get you."
While I was asleep, 2 of my own Blog posts, on my own page, have been erased, disappeared, redacted. I immediately post 3 "ALARMS! Intruder Alert" and a post to the effect that "They've done it again!. They're still trying to discredit me.", after checking the Ning Site's "Members" List and seeing the "Green Dot" signaling "Active Account" next to the Head Administrator's thumbnail pic (but I'm the only member on the site). This is ALWAYS the way it happens. (Been going on here for over a year - all being recorded by Apple, and even the DOJ or FBI on occasion, as I've been Beta testing "NS" hackproofing and software for APPLE since 1991).
NOTE: ANYONE CONSIDERING USING AN 'NING' SITE FOR ANYTHING, DON'T - THEY SUCK !
I am trying to repost my lost channeled memes from the night before (near eidetic short term recall helps) when a somewhat new member (who probably has NO idea who I am, or what I do, posts a comment to my "They've done it again!" post:
"Who are 'they' ?
No-one here is trying to discredit you."
"Sh*t, I think, here we go. Instead of assuming I might know what I am talking about, as a 60 year old 23rd Cycle, 1st Level Old Sage ("Sages" are about 10% of the total human population, we analyze, learn stuff, figure sh*t out, and then teach it to the rest of Humanity. See any Taoist text, it'll explain about "Sages") I have to now produce a "Reader's Digest" version of my life, from my recruitment 44 years ago, at UC Berkeley, by the CIA, for their MKUltra 'Black-Ops' Behavior Modification Program up to present day, AND include why I have irrefutable proof that SOME of 'them' have been doing this to me since the '70s, and how I got it, and what it is.
Sages have one weaknesss - if you ask them a question their "Role In Essence" almost compells them to answer. Their are 7 different "Roles" into which each and every person alive, and/or the ones not yet 'cycled off' (dead and done with all dharma and 'reunited' with the other 1,000 former people in their "Oversoul" - Seth Teachings, aka: "Entity" - Michael Teachings) is shoehorned every 4,000 years (appx 200 incarnations spread chronologically across those 4 millenia) or so, each with its idiosyncracies.
Anyway, I replied:
I have quite well delineated, on numerous occasions, on this site and for 9 years now at:
http://jondalfopines.blogspot.com/
&
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/mkultraones
exactly who "they" are most likely to be.
Whether you (or anyone else) care to believe it, not all the 'members' of this site are legitimate Michael Teaching's Students, AND not even all the legitimate Michael Students here are thoroughly pleased with the possibility that Chelsea Quinn Yarbro 9the woman who edited the original "Messages From Michael" - Ouija Board 'transmissions' that numbered in the hundreds) MAY have 'screwed the pooch' as it were (actually fabricated, edited, mistranslated, changed and redacted the original Michael Transmissions, BECAUSE SHE HAS REFUSED TO PUBLISH ALL OF THE TEXTS, NONE OF WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY EITHER 'CHANNELED' OR TRANSCRIBED BY HER, FOR WHICH SHE CANNOT CLAIM COPYRIGHT, and there have been numerous attempts, by various MT factions, to prevent the publication ANY of the "transcripts", EVEN THE ONES SHE NEVER USED, FOR 30 YEARS!
I have pointed out to the MTSC Admin. what is happening, they agree I'm not imagining it all, and are aware that Apple is sent everything that my iPad sees, in real time. Many of the oldest Michael Channels have known of CQYs perfidy (as have I) for decades, and have shared their perspectives about that, even recently ON THE MTSC SITE. All you have to do is read their, and many of our posts about various channels from other sites to start your education into the REAL Michael Teachings, that which some of these have a vested interest in obfuscating, because they, their reputations and even their livelihoods are based on information that is demonstrably false.
Many of the folk that pioneered the resurrection of transcripts have been gratuitously solicitous (I believe) to other 'old-school' Michael Students who I (and others) KNOW have twisted the Teachings for their own ends. Just last night I discovered yet another of my old "Letters To My Future Selves" (My Blogspot Blog - see above) ONE SPECIFICALLY PROVING A CHANNEL ON DAVE GREGG'S MICHAEL TEACHINGS SITE (THE LARGEST WORLDWIDE) COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED RECORDED HISTORY, AND COMMON SENSE, IN ANSWERING A QUESTION ABOUT STUFF THE MICHAEL HAS COMMUNICATED AS TRUE OVER AND OVER FOR DECADES, THROUGH DOZENS OF DIFFERENT CHANNELS !!!!!
I was not allowed to post the challenge to the truth of that channeling, because Mr. Gregg would not allow it as it "Wasn't in the best interest of the "core" Michael Teachings." I was subsequently banned from that site, and another called TLE, for questioning their veracity, as Michael Students are supposed to do. And for NOT CHARGING FOR MY CHANNELING!
I feel bad for Dave, because my Spirit Guides warned me, and I him - countless times (also posted on my Blog) that there were forces in play, including The Logos and its representatives, The Cherubim, (both of these some of MY lifelong Channeling Sources) that were resolved to extirpate what they felt were incarnate beings engaged in throttling the free flow of Michael Teachings memes and messages, amongst other things. I was ignored. Almost everyone my guides identified as 'at risk' because of their behavior has experienced effects that I attribute to their intransigence as supposed teachers and 'Lightworkers'. Remember: Cherubim destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. The Logos will not be obstructed, nor redacted, nor mocked. Times are different now, there are cruxial events upcoming for Mother Earth, and the human race, and footdragging by those tasked with shepherding our race through these trying times will NOT be allowed to stand.
NOT BY ME - ALL I CAN DO IS TRANSLATE THE ANGELIC MEMES, TELL PEOPLE WHAT I'M BEING TOLD, AND WATCH IN HORROR AS FOLK MANIPULATE THEMSELVES INTO HARMS WAY!
That having been said [been a long time coming, that explanation, because now people will blame ME, the messenger, for the message, and ridicule it and I (as usual: "A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country.")] - that having been said, there are OTHER folk who have wished me ill for years, NOT connected with the MT, in both Law Enforcement (dirty), and Government (fascist). If you read my posts of the last few months on the Blog listed at the top of this post, I have identified them clearly as well.
I have recorded dozens of instances of my posts here and elsewhere being tampered with, over a 2 to 3 decade period. Most 'whistleblowers', UFOlogists, Anarcho-Syndicalist Bloggers, US Intelligence Community/Defense Department/4th-Reich-Conservative-Politicians - Historians, Analysts and Critics (I am all of these) have experienced the same, ever since 10,000 NAZI WAR CRIMINALS WERE SMUGGLED INTO OUR COUNTRY, BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, DURING/AFTER WWII, TO STAFF OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITIES, DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, AND GOVERNMENT AND SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH COMMUNITIES. (This also was denied and ridiculed and prevented from being posted on Michael Teaching' Sites - not even this link was I allowed to post:
http://archive.org/details/jonesreport.comprojectpaperclipdocuments )
To this very day, information about Operation Paperclip and similar WAR CRIMES by the US Government is being erased, mainly by the Neo-Con apprentices of some of the most evil beings of all time, with names like Mengele (smuggled here to escape Nuremberg, employed by OUR GOVERNMENT and supported with TAXPAYER DOLLARS TILL DEATH) et al.
THE LINKS ARE ABOVE, AND ON MY YAHOO GROUP SITE: " MKULTRAONES" - WHICH YOU CANNOT GOOGLE BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT WON'T LET YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!
So about your: "Nobody is trying to discredit you." line - you're just flat wrong on this one, & I CAN prove it. You just don't know what you are talking about - Jondalf
"Just because you're paranoid DOESN'T mean they're NOT out to get you."
A Day In The Life Of A Channel
The morning begins, I open my MTSC (Michael Teachings Student Community) Blog and notice: Ack, they've done it again . . .
While I was asleep, 2 of my own Blog posts, on my own page, have been erased, disappeared, redacted. I immediately post 3 "ALARMS! Intruder Alert" and a post to the effect that "They've done it again!. They're still trying to discredit me.", after checking the Ning Site's "Members" List and seeing the "Green Dot" signaling "Active Account" next to the Head Administrator's thumbnail pic (but I'm the only member on the site). This is ALWAYS the way it happens. (Been going on here for over a year - all being recorded by Apple, and even the DOJ or FBI on occasion, as I've been Beta testing "NS" hackproofing and software for APPLE since 1991).
NOTE: ANYONE CONSIDERING USING AN 'NING' SITE FOR ANYTHING, DON'T - THEY SUCK !
I am trying to repost my lost channeled memes from the night before (near eidetic short term recall helps) when a somewhat new member (who probably has NO idea who I am, or what I do, posts a comment to my "They've done it again!" post:
"Who are 'they' ?
No-one here is trying to discredit you."
"Sh*t, I think, here we go. Instead of assuming I might know what I am talking about, as a 60 year old 23rd Cycle, 1st Level Old Sage ("Sages" are about 10% of the total human population, we analyze, learn stuff, figure sh*t out, and then teach it to the rest of Humanity. See any Taoist text, it'll explain about "Sages") I have to now produce a "Reader's Digest" version of my life, from my recruitment 44 years ago, at UC Berkeley, by the CIA, for their MKUltra 'Black-Ops' Behavior Modification Program up to present day, AND include why I have irrefutable proof that SOME of 'them' have been doing this to me since the '70s, and how I got it, and what it is.
Sages have one weaknesss - if you ask them a question their "Role In Essence" almost compells them to answer. Their are 7 different "Roles" into which each and every person alive, and/or the ones not yet 'cycled off' (dead and done with all dharma and 'reunited' with the other 1,000 former people in their "Oversoul" - Seth Teachings, aka: "Entity" - Michael Teachings) is shoehorned every 4,000 years (appx 200 incarnations spread chronologically across those 4 millenia) or so, each with its idiosyncracies.
Anyway, I replied:
I have quite well delineated, on numerous occasions, on this site and for 9 years now at:
http://jondalfopines.blogspot.com/
&
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/mkultraones
exactly who "they" are most likely to be.
Whether you (or anyone else) care to believe it, not all the 'members' of this site are legitimate Michael Teaching's Students, AND not even all the legitimate Michael Students here are thoroughly pleased with the possibility that Chelsea Quinn Yarbro (the woman who edited the original "Messages From Michael" - Ouija Board 'transmissions' that numbered in the hundreds) MAY have 'screwed the pooch' as it were (actually fabricated, edited, mistranslated, changed and redacted the original Michael Transmissions, BECAUSE SHE HAS REFUSED TO PUBLISH ALL OF THE TEXTS, NONE OF WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY EITHER 'CHANNELED' OR TRANSCRIBED BY HER, FOR WHICH SHE CANNOT CLAIM COPYRIGHT, and there have been numerous attempts, by various MT factions, to prevent the publication ANY of the "transcripts", EVEN THE ONES SHE NEVER USED, FOR 30 YEARS!
I have pointed out to the MTSC Admin. what is happening, they agree I'm not imagining it all, and are aware that Apple is sent everything that my iPad sees, in real time. Many of the oldest Michael Channels have known of CQYs perfidy (as have I) for decades, and have shared their perspectives about that, even recently ON THE MTSC SITE. All you have to do is read their, and many of our posts about various channels from other sites to start your education into the REAL Michael Teachings, that which some of these have a vested interest in obfuscating, because they, their reputations and even their livelihoods are based on information that is demonstrably false.
Many of the folk that pioneered the resurrection of transcripts have been gratuitously solicitous (I believe) to other 'old-school' Michael Students who I (and others) KNOW have twisted the Teachings for their own ends. Just last night I discovered yet another of my old "Letters To My Future Selves" (My Blogspot Blog - see above) ONE SPECIFICALLY PROVING A CHANNEL ON DAVE GREGG'S MICHAEL TEACHINGS SITE (THE LARGEST WORLDWIDE) COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED RECORDED HISTORY, AND COMMON SENSE, IN ANSWERING A QUESTION ABOUT STUFF THE MICHAEL HAS COMMUNICATED AS TRUE OVER AND OVER FOR DECADES, THROUGH DOZENS OF DIFFERENT CHANNELS !!!!!
I was not allowed to post the challenge to the truth of that channeling, because Mr. Gregg would not allow it as it "Wasn't in the best interest of the "core" Michael Teachings." I was subsequently banned from that site, and another called TLE, for questioning their veracity, as Michael Students are supposed to do. And for NOT CHARGING FOR MY CHANNELING!
I feel bad for Dave, because my Spirit Guides warned me, and I him - countless times (also posted on my Blog) that there were forces in play, including The Logos and its representatives, The Cherubim, (both of these some of MY lifelong Channeling Sources) that were resolved to extirpate what they felt were incarnate beings engaged in throttling the free flow of Michael Teachings memes and messages, amongst other things. I was ignored. Almost everyone my guides identified as 'at risk' because of their behavior has experienced effects that I attribute to their intransigence as supposed teachers and 'Lightworkers'. Remember: Cherubim destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. The Logos will not be obstructed, nor redacted, nor mocked. Times are different now, there are cruxial events upcoming for Mother Earth, and the human race, and footdragging by those tasked with shepherding our race through these trying times will NOT be allowed to stand.
NOT BY ME - ALL I CAN DO IS TRANSLATE THE ANGELIC MEMES, TELL PEOPLE WHAT I'M BEING TOLD, AND WATCH IN HORROR AS FOLK MANIPULATE THEMSELVES INTO HARMS WAY!
That having been said [been a long time coming, that explanation, because now people will blame ME, the messenger, for the message, and ridicule it and I (as usual: "A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country.")] - that having been said, there are OTHER folk who have wished me ill for years, NOT connected with the MT, in both Law Enforcement (dirty), and Government (fascist). If you read my posts of the last few months on the Blog listed at the top of this post, I have identified them clearly as well.
I have recorded dozens of instances of my posts here and elsewhere being tampered with, over a 2 to 3 decade period. Most 'whistleblowers', UFOlogists, Anarcho-Syndicalist Bloggers, US Intelligence Community/Defense Department/4th-Reich-Conservative-Politicians - Historians, Analysts and Critics (I am all of these) have experienced the same, ever since 10,000 NAZI WAR CRIMINALS WERE SMUGGLED INTO OUR COUNTRY, BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, DURING/AFTER WWII, TO STAFF OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITIES, DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, AND GOVERNMENT AND SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH COMMUNITIES. (This also was denied and ridiculed and prevented from being posted on Michael Teaching' Sites - not even this Wikipedia link was I allowed to post:
http://archive.org/details/jonesreport.comprojectpaperclipdocuments )
To this very day, information about Operation Paperclip and similar WAR CRIMES by the US Government is being erased, mainly by the Neo-Con apprentices of some of the most evil beings of all time, with names like Mengele (smuggled here to escape Nuremberg, employed by OUR GOVERNMENT and supported with TAXPAYER DOLLARS TILL DEATH) et al.
THE LINKS ARE ABOVE, AND ON MY YAHOO GROUP SITE: " MKULTRAONES" - WHICH YOU CANNOT GOOGLE BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT WON'T LET YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!
So about your: "Nobody is trying to discredit you." line - you're just flat wrong on this one, & I CAN prove it. You just don't know what you are talking about - Jondalf
"Just because you're paranoid DOESN'T mean they're NOT out to get you."
While I was asleep, 2 of my own Blog posts, on my own page, have been erased, disappeared, redacted. I immediately post 3 "ALARMS! Intruder Alert" and a post to the effect that "They've done it again!. They're still trying to discredit me.", after checking the Ning Site's "Members" List and seeing the "Green Dot" signaling "Active Account" next to the Head Administrator's thumbnail pic (but I'm the only member on the site). This is ALWAYS the way it happens. (Been going on here for over a year - all being recorded by Apple, and even the DOJ or FBI on occasion, as I've been Beta testing "NS" hackproofing and software for APPLE since 1991).
NOTE: ANYONE CONSIDERING USING AN 'NING' SITE FOR ANYTHING, DON'T - THEY SUCK !
I am trying to repost my lost channeled memes from the night before (near eidetic short term recall helps) when a somewhat new member (who probably has NO idea who I am, or what I do, posts a comment to my "They've done it again!" post:
"Who are 'they' ?
No-one here is trying to discredit you."
"Sh*t, I think, here we go. Instead of assuming I might know what I am talking about, as a 60 year old 23rd Cycle, 1st Level Old Sage ("Sages" are about 10% of the total human population, we analyze, learn stuff, figure sh*t out, and then teach it to the rest of Humanity. See any Taoist text, it'll explain about "Sages") I have to now produce a "Reader's Digest" version of my life, from my recruitment 44 years ago, at UC Berkeley, by the CIA, for their MKUltra 'Black-Ops' Behavior Modification Program up to present day, AND include why I have irrefutable proof that SOME of 'them' have been doing this to me since the '70s, and how I got it, and what it is.
Sages have one weaknesss - if you ask them a question their "Role In Essence" almost compells them to answer. Their are 7 different "Roles" into which each and every person alive, and/or the ones not yet 'cycled off' (dead and done with all dharma and 'reunited' with the other 1,000 former people in their "Oversoul" - Seth Teachings, aka: "Entity" - Michael Teachings) is shoehorned every 4,000 years (appx 200 incarnations spread chronologically across those 4 millenia) or so, each with its idiosyncracies.
Anyway, I replied:
I have quite well delineated, on numerous occasions, on this site and for 9 years now at:
http://jondalfopines.blogspot.com/
&
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/mkultraones
exactly who "they" are most likely to be.
Whether you (or anyone else) care to believe it, not all the 'members' of this site are legitimate Michael Teaching's Students, AND not even all the legitimate Michael Students here are thoroughly pleased with the possibility that Chelsea Quinn Yarbro (the woman who edited the original "Messages From Michael" - Ouija Board 'transmissions' that numbered in the hundreds) MAY have 'screwed the pooch' as it were (actually fabricated, edited, mistranslated, changed and redacted the original Michael Transmissions, BECAUSE SHE HAS REFUSED TO PUBLISH ALL OF THE TEXTS, NONE OF WHICH WERE ORIGINALLY EITHER 'CHANNELED' OR TRANSCRIBED BY HER, FOR WHICH SHE CANNOT CLAIM COPYRIGHT, and there have been numerous attempts, by various MT factions, to prevent the publication ANY of the "transcripts", EVEN THE ONES SHE NEVER USED, FOR 30 YEARS!
I have pointed out to the MTSC Admin. what is happening, they agree I'm not imagining it all, and are aware that Apple is sent everything that my iPad sees, in real time. Many of the oldest Michael Channels have known of CQYs perfidy (as have I) for decades, and have shared their perspectives about that, even recently ON THE MTSC SITE. All you have to do is read their, and many of our posts about various channels from other sites to start your education into the REAL Michael Teachings, that which some of these have a vested interest in obfuscating, because they, their reputations and even their livelihoods are based on information that is demonstrably false.
Many of the folk that pioneered the resurrection of transcripts have been gratuitously solicitous (I believe) to other 'old-school' Michael Students who I (and others) KNOW have twisted the Teachings for their own ends. Just last night I discovered yet another of my old "Letters To My Future Selves" (My Blogspot Blog - see above) ONE SPECIFICALLY PROVING A CHANNEL ON DAVE GREGG'S MICHAEL TEACHINGS SITE (THE LARGEST WORLDWIDE) COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED RECORDED HISTORY, AND COMMON SENSE, IN ANSWERING A QUESTION ABOUT STUFF THE MICHAEL HAS COMMUNICATED AS TRUE OVER AND OVER FOR DECADES, THROUGH DOZENS OF DIFFERENT CHANNELS !!!!!
I was not allowed to post the challenge to the truth of that channeling, because Mr. Gregg would not allow it as it "Wasn't in the best interest of the "core" Michael Teachings." I was subsequently banned from that site, and another called TLE, for questioning their veracity, as Michael Students are supposed to do. And for NOT CHARGING FOR MY CHANNELING!
I feel bad for Dave, because my Spirit Guides warned me, and I him - countless times (also posted on my Blog) that there were forces in play, including The Logos and its representatives, The Cherubim, (both of these some of MY lifelong Channeling Sources) that were resolved to extirpate what they felt were incarnate beings engaged in throttling the free flow of Michael Teachings memes and messages, amongst other things. I was ignored. Almost everyone my guides identified as 'at risk' because of their behavior has experienced effects that I attribute to their intransigence as supposed teachers and 'Lightworkers'. Remember: Cherubim destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. The Logos will not be obstructed, nor redacted, nor mocked. Times are different now, there are cruxial events upcoming for Mother Earth, and the human race, and footdragging by those tasked with shepherding our race through these trying times will NOT be allowed to stand.
NOT BY ME - ALL I CAN DO IS TRANSLATE THE ANGELIC MEMES, TELL PEOPLE WHAT I'M BEING TOLD, AND WATCH IN HORROR AS FOLK MANIPULATE THEMSELVES INTO HARMS WAY!
That having been said [been a long time coming, that explanation, because now people will blame ME, the messenger, for the message, and ridicule it and I (as usual: "A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country.")] - that having been said, there are OTHER folk who have wished me ill for years, NOT connected with the MT, in both Law Enforcement (dirty), and Government (fascist). If you read my posts of the last few months on the Blog listed at the top of this post, I have identified them clearly as well.
I have recorded dozens of instances of my posts here and elsewhere being tampered with, over a 2 to 3 decade period. Most 'whistleblowers', UFOlogists, Anarcho-Syndicalist Bloggers, US Intelligence Community/Defense Department/4th-Reich-Conservative-Politicians - Historians, Analysts and Critics (I am all of these) have experienced the same, ever since 10,000 NAZI WAR CRIMINALS WERE SMUGGLED INTO OUR COUNTRY, BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT, DURING/AFTER WWII, TO STAFF OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITIES, DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, AND GOVERNMENT AND SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH COMMUNITIES. (This also was denied and ridiculed and prevented from being posted on Michael Teaching' Sites - not even this Wikipedia link was I allowed to post:
http://archive.org/details/jonesreport.comprojectpaperclipdocuments )
To this very day, information about Operation Paperclip and similar WAR CRIMES by the US Government is being erased, mainly by the Neo-Con apprentices of some of the most evil beings of all time, with names like Mengele (smuggled here to escape Nuremberg, employed by OUR GOVERNMENT and supported with TAXPAYER DOLLARS TILL DEATH) et al.
THE LINKS ARE ABOVE, AND ON MY YAHOO GROUP SITE: " MKULTRAONES" - WHICH YOU CANNOT GOOGLE BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT WON'T LET YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!
So about your: "Nobody is trying to discredit you." line - you're just flat wrong on this one, & I CAN prove it. You just don't know what you are talking about - Jondalf
"Just because you're paranoid DOESN'T mean they're NOT out to get you."
Sunday, May 13, 2012
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